http://diylilcnc.org/forum/tags/building Free, open-source plans for a low-cost 3-axis CNC mill by Taylor Hokanson and Chris Reilly. Sponsored by the School of the Art Institute of Chicago. en-US Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:45:00 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://diylilcnc.org/forum/search.php http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/water-cut-panels-anybody-else-want-in-on-a-batch-order#post-463 Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:49:37 +0000 gjbloom 463@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>Well, turns out a ballpark for all 7 sheets is $800 plus shipping. They also said a laser cut would be a lot sharper for this material (masonite). $800 is too rich for me. (Dang - it sure was sounding good there for a while). </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/water-cut-panels-anybody-else-want-in-on-a-batch-order#post-461 Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:10:58 +0000 gjbloom 461@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>@Taylor - Thanks for the caution. Sadly, NWWEDM confirmed that the quote was for sheet #1 only. Whatever software they're using evidently doesn't do layers. I'll see if I can bust it into seven separate dxf files (unless you already have each sheet broken out?). </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/water-cut-panels-anybody-else-want-in-on-a-batch-order#post-459 Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:24:33 +0000 Taylor 459@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>All,</p> <p>This sounds great! One thought: Some users have been having trouble accessing the layers within our CAD files. You may want to check one more time that this company isn't charging you for only a fraction of the total number of panels. If the price is indeed for the whole set, I don't think you'll find a better deal anywhere. </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/water-cut-panels-anybody-else-want-in-on-a-batch-order#post-457 Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:13:54 +0000 gjbloom 457@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>Sure - you can write me at Gregory dot Bloom at gmail dot com.</p> <p>I plan on waiting until next Friday (April 30th) before ordering to see if anyone else wants in. </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/water-cut-panels-anybody-else-want-in-on-a-batch-order#post-454 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:07:12 +0000 xvpower 454@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>I am definitely interested, is there an easy way to contact you? </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/water-cut-panels-anybody-else-want-in-on-a-batch-order#post-452 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:15:38 +0000 Chris 452@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>@gjbloom, this is a great deal. Thanks for posting! </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/using-diylilcnc-to-cut-panels-for-another-diylilcnc#post-451 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:14:31 +0000 Chris 451@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>@gjbloom, yes, in theory it would be possible. You'd probably need to extend the Y-axis to allow for the cutting of the x-beams. You'd also have to account for the radius of the cutting bit by blowing out the interior corners of all the cuts, like <a href="http://rainbowlazer.com/3d/rhino/cnc-routing-technique-for-milling-interior-corners/">this</a>. </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/water-cut-panels-anybody-else-want-in-on-a-batch-order#post-450 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:03:30 +0000 gjbloom 450@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>I received this quote from <a href='http://www.northwestwireedm.com/'>NorthWest Wire EDM</a> for waterjet-cut panels in 1/4" Masonite:</p> <p>Gregory,<br /> Sorry for the delay, I have Mondays off. The cost of your batch of parts will be $125 plus shipping. FYI, the cost would drop considerably if you ordered 3 or more sets, since most of the cost is in handling! 3 sets would cost you about $225 plus shipping. Let us know what you think. Lead time is about 2 days right now.<br /> Thanks for the opportunity to quote your parts, Eric, NWWEDM 509-893-0885 </p> <p>Anybody else want to go in on a set? </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/using-diylilcnc-to-cut-panels-for-another-diylilcnc#post-448 Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:47:26 +0000 gjbloom 448@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>Does anyone think it would be possible (or likely) that a design could be created to allow one DIYLILCNC to cut the panels needed for a new DIYLILCNC? </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-432 Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:57:10 +0000 wilsonjc 432@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>I've always been happy with the price and service from Canada bearings <a href="http://www.canadianbearings.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.canadianbearings.com</a> More then other bearing suppliers. Even <a href="http://www.motionindustries.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.motionindustries.com</a> located down the street from me. My problem with motion industries has only been billing and shipping problems, but most of these problems are related to the company i work for having many departments and locations. So check out both companies before you buy. </p> <p>cheers. </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-163 Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:59:04 +0000 DIYengineer 163@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>I'm interested in the Porter 7310. How large is it compared to a normal dremel? It sure would be nice to have 3/4HP and 30,000 rpm, not to mention the 1/4" collet. </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-133 Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:50:40 +0000 Chris 133@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>Very exciting, guys! Do keep us posted please. </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-131 Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:01:56 +0000 Open Form Architecture 131@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>@ ALL - Canadian Order Update:</p> <p>We have now ordered all the parts. In the end we ordered most of the components from the USA, and shipped locally to a person we know. This will then be forwarded to us over the border. </p> <p>McMaster-Carr (Distro through Motion Canada):<br /> We did manage to find the McMaster-Carr products through Motion Canada in Montréal, and I suggest you contact them, their total cost is roughly $530 (incl. tax). Please contact: Alexandre Chaurette (alexandre.chaurette@motioncanada.com). They are one of the McMaster-Carr distributers in Canada, and the price is good.</p> <p>Drivers, Motors, Cables &amp; Electronics:<br /> We sourced all of these from the American companies, to be shipped to Canada.</p> <p>Skate Bearings:<br /> We sourced from Kinecor (in Montréal) and bought 3 boxes of 16ct Abec 7, sealed bearings. $57.65 (incl. taxes).</p> <p>Dremel:<br /> We bought the Dremel #300 from Rona (online) that included a bonus 75-piece bit set. It was cheaper than Home Depot. $79.00 (incl. tax). As you have read in the other forum posts, the Dremel #395 originally specified is no longer on sale. I hope that the z-axis will fit this fairly close, but I know that the body is a different shape (from talking with Dremel).</p> <p>Gantry Body:<br /> We -like the others- are having initial difficulties sourcing the 1/4" Masonite sheet (0.22" - 0.24" actual thickness). Our laser cutter company has been able to find 0.19" thickness, but I don't want to re-dimension the drawings to make the slots fit this. We're debating going to MDF, but still hesitant about the material change, and further, if we go to MDF, our laser cutter won't do it because of the burning glue.</p> <p>Total Costs:<br /> The total is about $1300 CDN and this excludes the computer tower and its accessories. The Linux/EMC2 operating system is of course free.</p> <p>*If you need names or contacts, I can give them.<br /> Good luck, Darrel </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-104 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:14:29 +0000 Open Form Architecture 104@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>@DNA Works:</p> <p>I cannot say if they will ship, but please feel free to contact them (I posted the information above). Maybe if we all place an order there, it can save us money? But considering that Masonite is a dense (and therefore heavy) material, it would be worth comparing the shipping costs to you versus a price quote from one of your local supplier. It is all worth figuring out and comparing costs. If you contact COOP Techno (above) you can always mention our name: Architecture Open Form. </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-103 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:23:30 +0000 dnaworks 103@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>Darrel, do you happen to know if they would be willing to ship out of province? </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-101 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:11:42 +0000 Open Form Architecture 101@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>@Schweppes:</p> <p>Yes the quote above - $463 (incl. taxes) was for the 7 panels cut out of 1/4" masonite. </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-100 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:38:02 +0000 Bill 100@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>Nazerine, I was considering adapting the plans to use the same router. My one reservation was that it is only single speed. Chris responded on this thread (<a href="http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/parts-list" rel="nofollow">http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/parts-list</a>) on how having a single speed will limit your range of materials. </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-99 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:43:08 +0000 Schweppes 99@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>Nazerine, I'm just posting the quotes i've been receiving from local companies. I *really* don't want to spend that kind of cash on just the gantry cut outs. Maybe someone else is willing. By 80/20 are you talking about the industrial erector steel fabs? Or is that another free cnc machine design?</p> <p>If you happen to know a cheaper place to get steel plate fab'd out, please let me know, near all the quotes i'm getting are over a thousand. </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-98 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:14:00 +0000 nazerine 98@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>@cdndave : "Could the panels be CNC'ed instead of laser'ed?"</p> <p>Yes, most definitely. I've prepared the cnc files already for my machine. Just need to find more free time to do some cutting and fit tests. If all goes as planned, I will share with everyone else :)</p> <p>@Schweppes : "For unmodified panels made of 1/4'' a44 supplied steel plate, costs 1,659$"</p> <p>Honestly, not to detract from the diylilcnc project; but if you're going to go to that cost for material there are better designs. Are you familiar with a product called 8020 ?</p> <p>Dremels... I plan on using a Porter Cable 7310 compact laminate trimmer. K2 makes an aluminum bracket for cnc purposes, but I believe the stock base plate could be modified easily for mounting. There are many tooling options with 1/4" shank </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-97 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:05:25 +0000 Schweppes 97@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>Darrel, was that quote for the masonite, with the material supplied, or steel? </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-96 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:43:47 +0000 Chris 96@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>Darrel, it is really exciting to see you guys helping each other out. </p> <p>I'm always happy when I can help incite hard work :)</p> <p>We will definitely have a place for your info here. Keep it coming! </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-95 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:30:00 +0000 Bill 95@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>I purchased the full McMaster-Carr parts list, about a week ago, and it came to $279.35 US, including Sales Tax and Shipping. </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-94 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:00:19 +0000 Open Form Architecture 94@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>@Scweppes (&amp; Others):</p> <p>The lowest quote so far for laser cutting the 7 panels is $463 (incl. Taxes) at COOP Techno Laser in Sorel-Tracy, Québec - 1.450.743.2411. We have yet to actually cut them.</p> <p>I also have Acklands-Grainger (<a href="https://www.acklandsgrainger.com" rel="nofollow">https://www.acklandsgrainger.com</a>) giving a quote for the full list of McMaster-Carr products, but they're going slow. I told them to keep an order list because there are all us others wanting to build the machine. Perhaps Acklands can relay this order information internally to you others. I have been dealing with Sylvain Methot (methots@agi.ca) so you can also get a quote from him but sent from a closer location to where you live.</p> <p>@ Taylor, Chris:<br /> As the discussion above shows, this is a lot of work. I have easily put in 20 - 24 hours just in sourcing the materials and getting quotes. I suggest that we compile this information at the end in order to save everybody else time!</p> <p>Good luck - and keep the information flowing!<br /> Darrel </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-93 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:28:49 +0000 cdndave 93@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>Taylor and Chris:</p> <p>Thanks for your reply :) And I appreciate the effort and genius that went into this design - my issue is again the "diy" moniker. As mentioned before - once I build a "cruder" diy cnc, I'll tackle this one - it's elegance is a thing of beauty, I would let it live in the office (not the garage like the beast from buildyourcnc.com)</p> <p>I agree that Pat's site does not offer plans per say, the videos contain enough detail for a DIYer to build a crude CNC mill. Instructables is also a valid source of ideas and plans.</p> <p>I too look forward to the day where I can buy a mini-china machine at walmart for $80. In the mean time I slowly hack away at my build, investigate Contraptor and keep my eye on this project :)</p> <p>Keep up the good work - it inspires me :)</p> <p>Dave </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-91 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:54:24 +0000 Chris 91@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>Vers. 2.0: the entire gantry can be whittled from Ritz crackers.</p> <p>In all seriousness...cdndave, I can relate to your yearning for a truly simple kit that will allow for precision fabrication for pennies on the dollar and little effort, but there is a lot in that request. </p> <p>Of course we're a long way off from being able to, say, drive to Walmart and get their latest blue-light CNC for $59.95; there was a time not too long ago though that the same could be said for PC's or inkjet printers. </p> <p>My point is, projects like this are a first step towards that end of really really accessible fabbing technology that will be [hopefully] at the grasp of everyday folks. We wouldn't have those things if people hadn't been in their garages and studios spending beer money on circuit boards (and vice versa). </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-90 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:13:32 +0000 Taylor 90@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>cdndave,</p> <p>These panels can be CNC milled with some modifications to the interior corners in the CAD file (to account for bit diameter). </p> <p>I agree that buildyourcnc appears to have some great plans, but it looks like none of them can be downloaded for free.</p> <p>DIYLILCNC does require the use of a laser cutter or CNC router, but just about anyone can gain access these days (whether through a university, online service bureau, or beer exchange agreement). Very few additional tools are required. </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-89 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:40:43 +0000 cdndave 89@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>I'm in Montreal too</p> <p>Here is my issue with the DIY "open source" affordable solutions, they are usually neither unless you have access to a fully equipped lab.</p> <p>Could the panels be CNC'ed instead of laser'ed? Might be cheaper and you might find a volunteer to do it for free (or in exchange for beers)</p> <p>This is a lovely little toy, but DIY is a stretch :)</p> <p>That being said, I might build one of these after I build a simpler DIY CNC (like buildyourcnc.com)</p> <p>Dave </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-87 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:57:50 +0000 Schweppes 87@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>I just got my quote back from laser equations in calgary alberta. For unmodified panels made of 1/4'' a44 supplied steel plate, costs 1,659$<br /> For an average of 300$ a panel. </p> <p>I'm going to send out a request for a quote from two other cutters in calgary aswell, i will post my results when i get them </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-74 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:55:46 +0000 Taylor 74@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>Further, if you folks know a medium-sized, hack-friendly Canadian biz, we might be able to talk them into stocking selections from the parts list. Just let us know and we'll make some requests. </p> http://diylilcnc.org/forum/topic/building-diylilcnc-in-canada#post-71 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:49:47 +0000 Schweppes 71@http://diylilcnc.org/forum/ <p>You can get high qulkity bearings for realitively cheap from "transmission supply" in calgary, alberta. i'm not sure if they will ship however. I plan to order them from here, i will post the costs as i find out. I'm sending out a quote tonight to a local laser water jet cutting shop, will update the costs aswell. </p>